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Post by Fatal hilarity on May 18, 2009 22:56:27 GMT -5
...Actually, I was referring to the one in my post about "Buzz" and the mystery weasels. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
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Post by kishi on May 19, 2009 5:21:06 GMT -5
...you said 'video I put a link up to'...
I assumed that was the last video you posted a link to. o.O
Oh well, I went and had a look at it. Poor Willie. Why'd they have to run over him...and twice?! *takes him away to cuddle* He kind of reminds me of Stupid, actually...with that striped shirt on. (If Stupid had a nice fluffy tail)
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Post by Fatal hilarity on May 19, 2009 5:39:32 GMT -5
It's okay! It's my fault because I had forgotten about the one about voice actors, and didn't specify which video it was.
It seems to me that Willie's supposed to be kind of bratty (and probably poorer than ol' sheltered safety-bubble Tufty). It's the consequences of reckless playtime! He's not Disney, of course, but I can tell that the model designers were thinking of Disney's version of The Wind in the Willows (the book I think is immensely more popular there than in America, anyway). It's the long neck, you see.
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Post by kishi on May 19, 2009 18:39:43 GMT -5
Yeah..he's more like a real kid, actually.  Tufty is like...The Beav. (Leave it to Beaver. Never heard of it? Google is your friend. ) He never really gets hurt. It bothered me a bit because of his size. He's supposed to be like a little kid, but he's almost as big as his mom. XD It made me think of a teenager going around having to 'hold mummys hand'. |
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Post by Fatal hilarity on May 19, 2009 18:56:01 GMT -5
Oh, I know about Leave it to Beaver. It's one of my favorite TV shows! In fact, my mom raised me on it as a little kid, although I don't remember it.
I would imagine their relative sizes come from the model builders limited abilities. I think Willie is actually the smallest... and he's the one who gets his freakin' leg broken twice, AND his ice cream ruined! You wonder why he's not crying his eyes out...
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Post by kishi on May 20, 2009 5:11:20 GMT -5
Because he's a weasel, and weasels are tough. That and he'll just go knock Tufty over and take -his- ice cream.  |
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Post by Fatal hilarity on May 20, 2009 5:57:54 GMT -5
...If his leg weren't broken...
Of course, I'm really only inferring that. He's able to walk the second time he's hit, but Policeman Badger still says he won't be able to play with anyone for a long time, whatever that means...
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Post by kishi on May 20, 2009 16:26:35 GMT -5
He's taking him to jail because Policeman Badger figured out Willie's scheme of jumping out in front of cars and blackmailing their owners into providing him with ice cream so he won't turn them into their insurance companies. ;D
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Post by Fatal hilarity on May 20, 2009 16:53:49 GMT -5
What, you don't think they're perfectly innocent children? XD
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Post by kishi on May 20, 2009 22:25:14 GMT -5
Weasels are never completely innocent. ;D I should know...I have a pair of ferrets who keep people on their toes. Sure...they -look- sweet and innocent, but I know better. |
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Post by Fatal hilarity on May 21, 2009 5:20:38 GMT -5
They're one of the cutest creatures I've ever seen... and that's saying a lot.
So does anyone have anything to say about those ex-mystery weasels, including "Buzz"? What should their status be among all the others? That is, do they exist in the WFRR world, or do they not because they were never used?
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Post by kishi on May 21, 2009 16:05:15 GMT -5
Well, I see all of the toons as actors playing a part. So if a movie is canceled, that doesn't make the star not exist anymore.
I say they should go in with the rest, but perhaps be classed as 'they never made it in show business'?
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Post by Fatal hilarity on May 21, 2009 16:55:45 GMT -5
Never making it in show business, I think, would apply to most of the ones Roger Rabbit met. I consider the Roger Rabbit comics, unless they're specifically one of his shorts, to have "actually happened".
Most everything else, when they're used in animation instead of comics (I could get specific, but that'd take a long time), I would say was an acting job- How to be a Detective, for example. Bonkers and House of Mouse are exceptions, and "actually happened".
Now, I have my own theory for rejected characters: say they were drawn by a cartoonist, but the cartoonist didn't like it or the cartoonist's superiors didn't like it. What if the toon were crumpled up into a ball like in the Tiny Toons episode "A Looney Beginning"?
A toon who never gets a job, or never gets off the piece of paper he/she was born on, even, is a toon who never gets laughed at. Therefore, unless the toon is lucky and finds the means to support his/herself and has friends that can laugh at him/her, the toon will die a premature death of laughter depravation.
What a horrid thought... as many of us probably know, artists are a picky bunch and probably don't want to be associated with the creations they made but don't like. And yet once they create a toon, they practically have someone's LIFE in their hands!
...Boy, there's a moral dilemma.
Of course, since Buzz and the others (should it be single or plural?) don't look like they're meant to be humorous, and more like they're meant to be cute goody-two-shoes, they may have survived. It all depends on what the toon's purpose is, really.
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Post by kishi on May 22, 2009 5:17:07 GMT -5
See, my theory is slightly different, but yours works too. In my mind there are two ways for a toon to be born, either the 'normal' way that people do, like Pebbles seemed to have done in The Flintstones, or drawn and brought to life through the animation studios. Before then, they aren't really 'alive', so it doesn't matter. They're just a drawing like any other. |
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Post by Fatal hilarity on May 22, 2009 14:42:41 GMT -5
And... how is that incompatible with my theory? I completely agree with you, except for one detail... I think they come to life when the cartoonist draws them.
In fact, I have no idea what exactly you mean by "animation studios". Do you mean they have to be inked, colored, and photographed in order to come to life? I dunno... why would they have to go through that? Don't you think that the artist's imagination would be enough?
Are you saying that Tiny Toons is non-canonical to the WFRR world? Because I would definitely disagree with you there.
Hmm... we've gone off-topic here... Oh well, once I watch all the episodes of Bonkers I can find, I'll be finished with the guide. I have my doubts I'll be seeing any more, though...
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