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Post by Fatal hilarity on Mar 7, 2009 23:14:27 GMT -5
First of all, as it turns out, we were wrong about Br'er Weasel being the very first Disney weasel. That title belongs to an even more obscure character with only a single appearance: Agent von Weasel, a Nazi stereotype, from a series of Mickey Mouse newspaper strips in 1943, three years before Br'er Weasel's premiere. And as luck would have it, here are the complete scans by another dedicated Disney fan: www.geocities.com/soho/easel/4942/61.htm...As well as a slightly altered comic book version, with a different layout and additional panels: disneycomics.free.fr/Mickey/secret/Thumbnails.htmlSorry, Br'er Weasel- you've been dethroned! Also newly discovered is probably the most obscure Disney weasel of all- Pop Weasel. He appears in three comics total, all Chip 'n' Dale: coa.inducks.org/character.php?c=Pop+WeaselUnfortunately, this is the only image available so far. Luckily, some late seventies reprints of his two 1959 appearances are easily available, and his third appearance was in 1982... Here are all the photos of Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, both versions, that I could find with weasels in them: smg.photobucket.com/albums/v428/tymime/Weasels/Mr%20Toads%20Wild%20Ride/?action=view¤t=dl1_closeup.pngAnd these are a bunch of photos of Woozles from The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh ride (mostly in Disneyland) and some stuffed dolls: smg.photobucket.com/albums/v428/tymime/Weasels/Woozles/?action=view¤t=woozles1.pngAren't they the cuddliest things? XP |
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Post by psychoangel51402 on Mar 8, 2009 12:38:51 GMT -5
YOU ROCK, FATAL!!! OUT LOUD!!!!!!!!! \m/ WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THESE ARE AWESOME!!!!!!! Aww, Pop Weasel is SOOOOOO CUUUUUUUUUUUTE!!!!!!!! ^_^ Who's that wearing the Woozle plushie? If you're interested, I have a pic of Stan the Woozle from the TV show:  what is with the Disney weasels and their newsie hats? |
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Mar 8, 2009 13:28:31 GMT -5
Aiiiiiieeeeeee... so many weasels and TV shows to get!!
This must be before The Heffalump Movie... he's actually a bad guy! Those plushies are all so cute... XP
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Post by jebikun on Mar 8, 2009 15:30:53 GMT -5
GReat find!  all new to me! So there's another bad guy weasel working for Nazi with Pete...lol And pop weasel looks real cuddly! One image tells a lot, looking at him tossing that squirrel XD Great photos! are those plushies your souvenir from the trip? Stan is totally new to me as well. he looks adorable (in a cute evil way)! Never knew Pooh had villain character. Whenever I watched it on TV, it was all so peaceful...lol And I just remembered that in one episode of 'House of Mouse', there's this weasel guy who works at cheese shop. That guy looks just nice. No slyness... Mickey buys cheese from him with the money he is not supposed to use. |
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Mar 8, 2009 15:37:22 GMT -5
Oh no, those are just photos of plushies I found doing image searches for "woozles". I think they're discontinued, anyway. I'd like to buy them, but the merchandise at Disneyland is usually pretty lame- not only is the good stuff usually expensive, it becomes unavailable so quickly!
Besides, I'm not ready to show my face on the internet yet. That guy with the blue one in his shirt is just some guy on MySpace.
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Post by jebikun on Mar 8, 2009 15:40:14 GMT -5
Oh I see I don't know why but I'm kinda relieved that guy's not you! lol thanks again for cool stuff! |
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Mar 8, 2009 15:43:35 GMT -5
Yeah, most people who know me would say that I'm better looking than that... (brag brag.) XP
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Post by jebikun on Mar 8, 2009 15:47:50 GMT -5
ahaha I'm sure you are!^^
and This growing collection of Disney weasels are really becoming something. +_+
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Mar 16, 2009 14:35:26 GMT -5
Okay, here's the episode of Stan the Woozle: www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQJkKY9WGOQwww.youtube.com/watch?v=XTRGXjegwpc&feature=relatedwww.youtube.com/watch?v=zD2OLMzCBn4&feature=relatedIt's rather fascinating, really, as it doesn't address the near panic and irrational fear that the original song did. It does it more subtly this time- Pooh questions the assumption that you can never be friends with heffalumps and woozles, and that they always have to steal. Even Stan has difficulty accepting that he can just ask for the honey- "Woozles have always stolen honey!" he says. But boy, the freakiest part is this gigantic woozle with a chest as big as Genie's named Wooster. He's some sort of mutant or something, because I swear he's several stories tall... |
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Post by psychoangel51402 on Mar 16, 2009 17:50:17 GMT -5
OH, THANK YOU!!! I wanted to see this again SOOO badly! I never thought it'd be on YouTube! Thanks, fatal! ^_^
Wooster is a hilarious concept to me now. I was SO scared of him when I was little, tho! ^_^
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Mar 16, 2009 18:12:54 GMT -5
It never occurred to me that any weasel whatsoever would be a gigantic brute that scares everyone... I think that's why it's so darned weird. I mean, giant brutes are more of a hillbilly thing, y'know? That is, that type of character is usually in a different kind of group, and usually a fairly primitive one. Weasels, to me, are slightly above average when it comes to sophistication in that they're "hip".
Did you notice that they come from under the bed? How symbolic is THAT? It goes to show how primal the demonization of woozles is- Tigger first went around fearmongering and looking down on them, and now everyone's fear of them is borderline childish.
It makes me realize that I really ought to look at all of Disney's Winnie the Pooh media to spot as many woozles as possible (despite my general disdain for anything made after the original film)... did you notice part of the theme song has a shot of heffalumps and woozles in some fantasy sequence? I need to find out which episode that comes from.
Luckily, there are unofficial DVDs lurking about...
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Post by psychoangel51402 on Mar 16, 2009 20:05:49 GMT -5
well, lots of people from this very board (in some of the older threads) say they used to be scared of SMART GUY! Jeez, when i was a little eight-year-old in pigtails, and i first saw him get outta the patrol car, it was love at first sight. he's been my favorite cartoon/Disney character of all time ever since.
but when I was younger, I was scared of EVERYTHING. Hopper from Bug's Life, Wooster, Gaston from Beauty and the Beast, the TV show "Rupert" (I don't know if anyone's ever heard of Rupert...he was a white bear with a red jacket from a Nick Jr. show. I wasn't scared of him, specifically, but i don't remember what I was scared of...)...the list goes on and on.
anyway...I agree about the childish fear. but they couldn't really have something ACTUALLY scary for such a young audience, i s'pose. i mean, I was scared of Wooster and the Horse Thieves from that show as it was...'course, I was a wimp up until I was about twelve...
my point, tho, was that i agree that the fear is immature and baseless. i mean, all they do is steal honey. and originally they were fictional. Tigger sort of made them up.it'd be like a child now being afraid of dragons, i suppose.
what started the whole 'danger is under the bed' thing? is it 'cause it's dark under there? i never feared the underside of my bed until i saw things like that which TOLD me the underside of the bed was dangerous. but i imagined tarantulas, which could be defeated when i wore a particular pair of slippers i called my 'zapper boots'.
I was always an odd child...
well, i know the heffalumps are now harmless and are part of the whole "Pooh gang'', but nary hide nor hair has been seen of the woozles since Stan. probably because of the general prejudice against weasels...
pardon me, but why on Earth is Rabbit green?! I mean, he LOOKS green to me. Or at least CLOSE to green.
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Mar 16, 2009 22:17:10 GMT -5
I'm beginning to think that weasels have not only become a symbol for nastiness, greed, deception, and general hoodlumism, they've become symbols for that old "us and them" sort of fear. You know, like how we panicky Americans did such grotesque caricatures of the Japanese during WWII- the weasels are not only a generic bad guy, they're a generic enemy. Like the boogie man who's gonna getcha in your sleep.
It's all rather fascinating, really... it's like we're tapping into the collective subconscious of the typical American cartoonist or something.
I remember the Rupert show... vaguely. I watched Little Bear more often. Did you know that Rupert is based on a British children's comic strip that's over fifty years old?
The things I remember being scared of as a kid were mostly of the moderately spooky old-school horror kind... you know, haunted houses and creepy Halloween masks and such. More specifically, I was scared of The Haunted Mansion, Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Forbidden Eye, and (believe it or not) Car Toon Spin. I wouldn't go on them with my eyes open, and it was only recently that I rode them properly!
There are some things I was scared of that I can't even begin to explain...
From the looks of things, Disney has decided that Tigger was in fact telling the truth- there's not really any indication that he made them up, really. I always got this Bigfoot or campfire scary story sort of vibe from what he said. I guess it's like how we're afraid of snakes or something...
Originally, hardcore honey addict Pooh thought that the idea of someone taking his honey away from him was so horrifying that he had nightmares where he blew Tigger's story WAY out of proportion. It's like when you tell a little kid about the guy who cuts off your thumb if you suck it too much, and then they imagine the sound of scissors everywhere. Or more currently, when people talk about terrorists and make themselves believe that they'll pop out of manholes in the street and start firing machine guns.
I really can't stand the fact that heffalumps are a million times more popular than woozles. Why?? I mean, okay, they look sort of like elephants, big deal. I can hardly stand to look at them anymore 'cause they were everywhere in Critter Country. And The Heffalump Movie? Good lord... I wanna Woozle Movie! The heffalumps are too darned cute.
Actually, I find all those woozle dolls surprisingly cuddly looking... maybe it's just my preferences for animals.
I think Rabbit was always was a slightly murky yellow, but he does seem to be getting greener over the years... Personally, I blame the weirdness of Asian colorists and poor quality video. This series, as well as DuckTales, is clearly animated by Asians who aren't terribly well-versed in American style animation. That is, there's hardly any squash and stretch. No offense to Asians, of course.
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Post by psychoangel51402 on Mar 16, 2009 23:14:57 GMT -5
that is so sad and unfair...just like the case of coyotes...
i did not know that! like i said, i didn't really get that into Rupert...heh, heh...
i can understand you being scared of those rides - they're dark, fast, and loud. not a good combo for a little one. i think all little ones are afraid of at least one odd thing during their tender years...
"hardcore honey addict Pooh"?! ROTFLMBO!!!!!!!! Omigosh, that is HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, my land...!!!!!!!
I WANT A WOOZLE MOVIE, TOO!!!!! It's just not fair!!! Can you imagine how cute a baby woozle would be?! *squeee!*
I KNEW IT!!! Rabbit IS green! It's NOT JUST ME!!! *crazy stomping dance*
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Mar 16, 2009 23:43:43 GMT -5
Coyotes? I dunno, I haven't heard quite so much said about coyotes as I have weasels. Now foxes... they're probably just as bad as weasels, when it comes to stereotyping.
Those rides are still pretty creepy, though. Which is why I like them now... XP
I used to scared of this Gumby short about a golfball that grew bigger and bigger. In fact, just thinking about it makes me queasy. Beat that!
Or how about this: this little musical short for General Theaters, where the anthropomorphic popcorn bag got his nose caught in the iris-out. That scared me!
Or this Got Milk? commercial where somebody's playing a Mario game and doing really, really badly, making Mario slam into a floating block of brick.
And amazingly, each example did NOT scare me for the obvious reasons: the fact that the golfball was huge didn't scare me- the fact that his nose got stuck didn't scare me- and nor did the Mario slamming scare me. To this very day, I can't understand what frightened me about them. I only sense some form of frustration and anxiety...
I just noticed how much trouble his love of honey got him into when I watched the DVD just the other day (I hadn't seen them in years, so it was a total blast from the past). Nothing kept him from wanting more...
I always thought Rabbit looked kinda weird, anyhow...
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all new to me!