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Post by Fatal hilarity on Apr 29, 2009 0:58:08 GMT -5
I really can see how painstakingly carefully you wrote this. It's very different from the way I write- ideas bursting out of a broken pipe onto the page, and then tweaking a little along the way. I do it very intuitively. You, on the other hand, work very, very carefully in order to make it perfect. It's sort of like you want to avoid several drafts... whereas I usually don't know exactly where I'm going until I get there. It's quite fascinating to read, actually, because you pack so much into so little- I'm all broad and loosey-goosey in my writing. Because of that, you write a lot more like a real noir writer than I ever could.
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Post by psychoangel51402 on Apr 29, 2009 9:41:04 GMT -5
Yeah...I want to get it perfect before I show it to anyone...butI've heard that your method is MUCH more effective (and it is, I just can't make myself write scenes out of order very often. Don't know why, really). Really? I write like a real noir writer? Thank you SO much! You wanna know something funny? Other than WFRR , a few old Batman comics, and a "How to Draw Crime Noir" book, I've never seen or read any noir. My personal style just turned out noir-ish. Isn't that rather odd? I should post some of one of my other fanfics...probably my "Lilo and Stitch" one...for comparison...
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Apr 29, 2009 13:30:58 GMT -5
I haven't read noir fiction either, but I have read some examples by famous writers, and I've seen a handful of noir films... and what you've written is quite comparable to what I know about it. I honestly don't think you need to worry about using my method. What you're capable of is very, very good, and is something I could never do. I've been told that tight, quick narration is good to keep your reader's attention, which is what you're doing, but that isn't really my goal in my writing. My style is heavily inspired by Disneyland, believe it or not... I like to take the time to have the reader plunge deeply into the story's world and explore it, so not every little detail is packed with plot-forwarding information. I guess you could say I'm keeping the reader a fascinated tourist, while I reach for their heartstrings.
I especially like your take on Wheezy. It gives depth to an otherwise relatively blank personality, as seen in the film- you're peering into his inner feelings while he keeps them from sight. Hmm... sounds sort of like me... XP
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Post by psychoangel51402 on Apr 29, 2009 14:54:34 GMT -5
Inspired by Disneyland? Really? That's very unusual...and not at all in a bad way. It's interesting and completely new! You could be BIG someday with such a unique style! The reason I myself need to pack in the plot-forwarding details is because the story is LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG. I have had to do some MAJOR trimming to get it small enough to go on here without boring everyone. Plus, the TV show "Burn Notice" has had a MAJOR impact on my style and Dizzy's story altogether, and attention to detail is a major theme in "Burn Notice". I'm not saying I've taken that as criticism, I'm just saying it's VERY interesting to me how different our styles are. I am always noticing writing styles. It's fascinating to me. I certainly hope I add enough detail of the sort you're talking about, because I try hard to ensure my readers can see the places, hear the sounds, feel the emotions, etc. like Dizzy and I do. (When I write, I try project myself into the characters until I can perfectly grasp everything they're feeling. But not in a Mary-Sue way, like the way of an actor getting into character.)
Thanks! As I'm sure you know ALL about, Wheezy's the hardest character I've ever analyzed. He doesn't let us know much about himself, between his lack of speaking lines and the small part he plays (in comparision to the other weasels, who really don't get THAT big a part anyway, all things considered). It's hard not to make up his personality as I go. My main goal is always to keep everyone in character. I hope I did that with Wheezy.
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Apr 29, 2009 15:16:08 GMT -5
Hmm... well, if you want the places to be more visible to the reader, I suggest describing the places a little longer. (Or maybe I just need to reread the previous chapter...) Telling the reader what you see in your head is what I do. To me, a large of part of good writing is all about balancing how much you describe and how much the reader fills in for themselves. J.R.R. Tolkien overdid the details, in my opinion, which caused me to get bored and skim over it, eventually resulting in only a broad vision in my head. Never overload your reader, I think. On the other side of the spectrum, this novel called Soon I Will Be Invincible about superheroes and supervillains lacked detail, which made it very difficult for me to picture what was going on. My style is sort of like an impressionist painting. I want it easy for the reader to see what's around the character. I don't like leaving out anything that I see in my head...
I definitely think you've got evoking the characters' feelings down. Ultimately, that's more important.
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Post by jebikun on May 4, 2009 23:52:15 GMT -5
Oh wow you finally wrote more! So happy!! And I think your way of describing Wheezy and all other guys is fitting their character really well^^ Really enjoyed it, hope to see more soon
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Post by psychoangel51402 on May 28, 2009 23:40:48 GMT -5
Well, I have to ENTIRELY rewrite the next chapter, so it may be awhile again... Not as long as last time, tho ^_^' Sorry again about that...
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Post by KrazyRandomness on Jun 27, 2009 12:28:41 GMT -5
L-O-V-E IT!!!! You are SUCH a great writer!!!!
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Post by psychoangel51402 on Jun 28, 2009 20:19:13 GMT -5
Oh, thanks so much!
I gotta apologize for that abrupt ending there. I'm gonna add a bit more on there when I can think of it...I'm having a LOT of trouble with this part, as I'm sure you can tell...
Would anyone be interested Dizzy's version of that character meme Cooper made for Olly? I interviewed Dizzy last night...
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jun 28, 2009 22:51:20 GMT -5
Amazing! You traveled through time and the multiverse to get to her? XD Yes, I would like to see it.
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Post by cooper on Jun 29, 2009 0:39:53 GMT -5
Awesome! I'd love to see it! I bet everyone on the board would love to see it actually XD
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Post by KrazyRandomness on Jun 29, 2009 3:39:37 GMT -5
I think a meme for Dizzy would be awsome! I know I want to see it! I already read Olly and reading Diz's would be great! I think Olly is an awsome character, btw cooper. Anyway, making one for Diz would be great understanding her character from...well, her! Lol.
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Post by psychoangel51402 on Jun 29, 2009 9:33:01 GMT -5
Woah, sweet! I just realized some bits will give the story away, so I'll publish it a bit at a time. Here's the first bit: What is your full name?Desiree “Dizzy” Grace the Second. Some call me Diz. Where and when were you born?I was born in Brooklyn, New York, in the 20’s. Who are/were your parents?My mama’s Desiree Grace the First, an actress. My father was a bootlegger. Do you have any siblings? What are/were they like?Nope, I’m an only child…unless you count Amoureaux… *pshhh* …I hate that stupid bird. Where do you live now, and with whom? Describe the place and the person/people.Toontown, LA, CA. I live by myself, thank you very much…unless you count my flowers an’ livin’ household objects. Oh, an’ Gus stays over sometimes. He's a Toon seagull. Who snores. LOUD.What is your occupation?I’m an LAPD officer. I guess you could say I’m also somethin’ of a gun moll or torpedo…keep it on the dormy though, a’ight? Write a full physical description of yourself. You might want to consider factors such as: height, weight, race, hair and eye color, style of dress, and any tattoos, scars, or distinguishing marks.Heh, well…I’m a jill weasel, obviously…black eyes, light brown fur with lighter brown upper lip an’ underbelly…um, short, around three feet…skinny, lanky really. I like comfortable clothes but I try to look sophisticated. I prefer guys’ clothes to gals’. I don’t like pants, though… And I HATE skirts. I don’t have any tattoos or scars…that I know of. Heh heh heh. To which social class do you belong?Between lower and middle class, I guess. It don’t matter anyhow. Do you have any allergies, diseases, or other physical weaknesses?Well, no Toon can stand up ta Dip and survive…an’ prolonged laughter will do certain Toons in. Wait…What’s it to ya? You gonna try ta take me on?! Are you right- or left-handed?I’m ambidextrous, but I prefer to use my right paw when I only need one. What does your voice sound like?I’m told it’s kinda high-pitched an’ slightly nasally. I personally think it’s kinda sweet an’ sultry… *Ahem* Of course, I have a Brooklyn accent, too. What words and/or phrases do you use very frequently?Well, I say “Fuhgeddaboudit!” and “PAWS OFF, GREASY!!!” ALL the time…especially that last one… And I use the word “Boss” a lot. Does that count? What do you have in your pockets usually?My switchblade. A little cash, sometimes. Maybe a feather or two. And lint. There’s always a little lint. Do you have any quirks, strange mannerisms, annoying habits, or other defining characteristics?I admit it. I’m a klutz. I can’t go five minutes without trippin’, bangin’ my head on somethin’, or somethin’ along those lines… *sigh* Um, I’m pretty high-strung and restless. That can annoy the guys (namely Wheezy) sometimes. I play with my switchblade (or whatever happens to be to paw) when I’m bored, and that annoys ‘im, too. I think he’s touchy, but it could be just me. Whatever. A/N: Amoureaux is the pet lovebird belonging to Desiree Grace the First. After her husband died, she always paid more attention to it than her daughter. She spoiled it terribly, and as a result it became extremely unpleasant towards everyone except it's owner. Dizzy hated it. Oh, I hope y'all like this! I'll post more as secrets are revealed!
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Post by KrazyRandomness on Jun 29, 2009 11:38:13 GMT -5
I love it, homme. Good idea about not posting the whole thing so it wouldn't spoil your fic, btw. ;D
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jun 29, 2009 15:03:44 GMT -5
Hmm... why would there be feathers in her pocket? Or have I forgotten something?
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