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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jun 5, 2009 23:55:14 GMT -5
Oh, of course- I know that none of the words describe Maddy.
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Post by Eternity on Jun 6, 2009 0:03:52 GMT -5
How could be a good Smart Guy response to the "how can you treat him like that?" question when Maddy confronts him about his cruelty to Stupid?
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jun 6, 2009 0:41:35 GMT -5
"'Cause he's stupid!" would probably be the most truthful, yet brutal response.
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Post by kishi on Jun 6, 2009 11:45:45 GMT -5
I agree.  Something along those lines. The sad truth is, the big guy is probably only kept around because he's big and (sorry) dumb. And thus he's easy to control and get to do things. Is your story set in the '40s? If so, do realize that corporal punishment was still very much the norm for kids. XD In other words, no one would bat an eye if he decided he'd had enough and whooped her butt.  Not saying he -should- or that you should write it, but just saying it in general. It was considered completely acceptable up until the mid-80's to spank a kid. Now it's completely taboo. But it wouldn't be very realistic for a story with a kid in the '40's who has to take a 'time out'. *laughs* They would have just gotten whacked for not listening and that would have been the end of it. |
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jun 6, 2009 11:48:40 GMT -5
I've always imagined that Stupid was the muscle as well.
The original version was several decades later, I think. If it's still the same, SA would probably get in trouble for doing that.
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Post by Eternity on Jun 6, 2009 13:03:04 GMT -5
The prologue takes place in 1947. The main story takes place in 2007. My story will still be very much the same, just with some changed/added scenes and dialogue. I've had this theory that Smarty was cruelest to Stupid, and Maddy becomes Stupid's protector. Maddy is Eddie Valiant's great-granddaughter and this makes the relationship even more turbulent.
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Post by kishi on Jun 6, 2009 14:26:22 GMT -5
Oh, that sounds interesting. I can totally buy the weasels kind of being mean to Stupid. Even just out of pure habit...like they got used to taking out frustrations by picking on him, and they just keep doing it. Not being un-P.C. here, but I've always kind of thought that maybe Stupid was a little on the 'slow' side, and the other weasels take advantage of that. |
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jun 6, 2009 16:07:51 GMT -5
Well, he is named Stupid... stupidity is something that I don't think needs to be tiptoed around, for the most part- in Stupid's case, I think he has a good heart, so his intelligence doesn't matter much.
Mean, stupid people, on the other hand, don't deserve any respect.
SA, as we all agree, isn't usually the kindest person. We've agreed that if he should fall in love with the right woman, that it would bring out the best in him.
In contrast, it would seem that a little human girl would bring out the worst in him. Go figure- I guess it's a prejudice against age.
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Post by Eternity on Jun 6, 2009 20:45:30 GMT -5
Not to mention the fact that she is directly descended from the guy responsible for his death. The only reason he agrees to help her and Roger save Toontown is to escape his and his fellow weasels' eternal damnation.
I don't deny for one instant that Stupid is not the brightest bulb in the closet.
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Post by kishi on Jun 7, 2009 6:20:40 GMT -5
Well, by slow I meant that he may have a slight mental handicap.
I agree...it'll be totally interesting to read that! On one hand, he'd probably like to kill her for what her grandfather did, but on the other hand, he wants to escape damnation and she's just a little kid. XD
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Post by Eternity on Jun 7, 2009 21:46:36 GMT -5
Well, by slow I meant that he may have a slight mental handicap. I agree...it'll be totally interesting to read that! On one hand, he'd probably like to kill her for what her grandfather did, but on the other hand, he wants to escape damnation and she's just a little kid. XD "Just a little kid." You mean he probably goes by the old "she's a kid, kids are stupid" thing? |
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jun 8, 2009 1:17:51 GMT -5
That's pretty much what I said. :/
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Post by kishi on Jun 8, 2009 4:59:40 GMT -5
No, I meant that she IS a child, and I don't think, even if the kid is totally annoying, that he could quite bring himself to actually cause permanent physical harm to a child.
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jun 8, 2009 14:27:14 GMT -5
I know I knew what you meant- just to be clear, I was saying that what Spikey guessed what you meant was pretty much what I had said.
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Post by psychoangel51402 on Jun 8, 2009 21:40:51 GMT -5
Hm. He's really kind of rude when you come right down to it. Think about it...he busts into Eddie's place, insults him (and his 'laundry'), threatens him and leaves. *snerk* You’re right! That IS pretty darn rude! I never really thought about it before…I always shrugged it off as an abuse of his authority. Say the girl is a pushover. She'd be waaay too easy for him to manipulate, and she'd probably end up being pushed around by him and being forced to do all the menial little things he doesn't want to do. I don't think he'd like it if a girl was too domineering of him. Like trying to undercut his authority with the other weasels or straight out heaping reams of abuse on him. (Or expecting him to straighten up and fly right.) Somewhere in the middle, not necessarily a completely like-minded lady, but one who appreciates his efforts and schemes, might be what he'd like best. I do think that, being set in the '40's mindset, he's not quite up to a completely empowered girl. He'd like to think that she needed him in some way, whether or not that was actually -true- is up for question. Perhaps a pushover wouldn’t be enough of a challenge for him (I imagine he’d want SOMEWHAT of a challenge), but an empowered girl wouldn’t be worth the time – too distracting and time-consuming. It’d keep him from his job. Do you agree? As to how he would talk to them...I could see him being a bit of a sexist jerk, at least at first. What do you mean exactly by that? Can you tell me an example? As for whether or not guys could respect women in the '40s...didn't they all respect their dear mothers? XD Dunno about weasels though, and I know that's certainly not the 'norm', but lets just say maybe he was actually brought up somewhat respectable and knows what he -should- do. (Things just to be nice...like opening doors for the lady, punching gropers in the snozzle. ;D) Maybe only when no one who would consider it “lowering” is around? I'm curious as to how he would talk to a 10-year-old girl. My character Maddy is a pretty willful little girl, and she kind of competes with Smart Guy on how to save Toontown in my fic. How would he talk to a child? Like fatal said, I think he’d be pretty disdainful towards her. She’s a pain in the butt, and he frankly ain’t her babysitter. She needs to learn some manners, and if not, stay outta his way. I agree. XD "Go away, kid, you bother me." "Why don't you go home and play with your dollies?" I could see that. Depends on how 'willfully' she comes back at him though. (I could perhaps see him getting just a touch on the nasty side with a 'bratty' little kid. 'Bratty' in the sense of how -he- sees them.) I agree entirely. Apparently, when it comes to men in charge, the more a kid rebels, the harder the guy’s gonna come back. "'Cause he's stupid!" would probably be the most truthful, yet brutal response. Sounds EXACTLY like what he’d say! I had to laugh at that. I can COMPLETELY hear him saying that. It’s like he’s standing right next to me, saying that! Only not really. poo… TT-TT |
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Something along those lines.
