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Post by psychoangel51402 on Feb 6, 2009 21:00:07 GMT -5
HE STINKIN' DOES!!! Jeez, "Whoa, can't you tell the difference?!" He looks ALMOST like a rat...I hate it when lazy artists RUIN an otherwise excellent piece of work, like in Loonatics Unleashed (the second season, mostly) If this wasn't Br'er Weasel, I think I'd really like it. He seems pretty cool. He has kind of a Looney Tunes/classic Disney vibe. Plus I love nearly any Toon in a newsie hat. ^_^ ROTFLOL!!!! Could he BE any different from his traditional "Southern Gentleman" character that eventually evolved?! 'Br'er Weasel': CHIPMUNKS!!! HUNGRYYYYY!!! *foams at mouth, rips off clothes and runs at them waving his arms and drooling* Br'er Fox:  What 'chu doin' takin' off yo' clothes, foo'?! Chipmunks: They don't pay us NEARLY enough... |
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Feb 6, 2009 22:22:41 GMT -5
I think the other Chip 'n' Dale one where he's wearing a top hat is my favorite out of all the off-model versions of Br'er Weasel.
I find it rather strange that he should have the basic "here-let-me-rip-you-off" schtick in his early days and the basis for his modern design, but not truly become the character he is today until recently in Europe... he's got the weirdest legacy I've ever seen in any cartoon character.
And just our luck... most of the American newspaper strips from '46 to about '52 seem to have only been printed ONCE... I'm gonna have to look at newspaper archives to find copies. Many of them have never been reprinted in ANY language, or there's only one English version, which are the original newspaper ones.
The thing is that I'd rather not have something lost in translation, and I want to have the original dialogue intact.
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Post by psychoangel51402 on Feb 7, 2009 1:16:09 GMT -5
darn...
also, i wish INDUCKS would post bigger pics. I mean, it's not like someone could steal the one-page images for resale or anything, would it KILL them to help us artists out?!
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Post by jebikun on Feb 7, 2009 1:29:55 GMT -5
Until now, I just know one story about tar baby and Brer Fox and rabbit and bear(cuz of Disney's feature).and wow. It's lot more than i knew O.O... learning!
And some of those characters are seriously off-weasel...yowch.
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Post by psychoangel51402 on Feb 7, 2009 13:38:43 GMT -5
Knowledge is power!!! XP and apparently the artists had no knowledge of what weasels look like...sheesh...
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Apr 26, 2009 16:43:27 GMT -5
The good news: I finally found someone's scans of Br'er Weasel comics! They're the first full comics of him available to us. The bad news: They're all from his "middle period", where he was always drawn completely off-model. This one stars Grandma Duck, of all people, in "Getting Grandma's Goat": smg.photobucket.com/albums/v428/tymime/Weasels/Getting%20Grandmas%20Goat/?action=view¤t=4c0965-03.jpgThis is the first time I've seen any cartoon weasel anywhere, besides Wacky Weasel from Bonkers, stealing eggs! Why is it such a stereotypical characteristic when I've never seen any toon weasels doing it before? Well anyway, as you can see, he has an entirely new and very pointy-nosed design, with somewhat Mr. Toad-esque clothing. Here's "Dough Re Mi", where he looks like an otter: smg.photobucket.com/albums/v428/tymime/Weasels/Dough%20Re%20Mi/?action=view¤t=MMouse059-021.jpg...And "Warpath Wrath", where he looks more like a real weasel, albeit a chubby one, and with a crooked top hat: smg.photobucket.com/albums/v428/tymime/Weasels/Warpath%20Wrath/?action=view¤t=WDCS_263_13.jpgFor some reason Chip n' Dale refer to him as " a Br'er Weasel". A "brother weasel"? Does that imply that he's a different Br'er Weasel? He might as well be. I also found an American reprint of one of the original newspaper strips, but the "Br'er Weasel" in question looks more like a rat or a possum to me. No one mentions his name, and he doesn't speak... so he doesn't count! INDUCKS can be weird that way... |
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Post by psychoangel51402 on Apr 27, 2009 13:19:30 GMT -5
Ehwww...he looks REALLY wierd...
Perhaps the possum guy is supposed to be Br'er Possum? Was he supposed to be a good guy?
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Apr 27, 2009 14:16:41 GMT -5
I like the first and third ones myself.
There is in fact a Br'er Possum, so it could be him. And he is a good guy, since from the looks of things he mainly serves as a background character.
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Post by psychoangel51402 on May 18, 2009 17:22:46 GMT -5
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Post by Fatal hilarity on May 18, 2009 19:09:30 GMT -5
I'm still trying to figure where I can find the original American strips and the European revival comics... I may have found a source, but I make no promises...
I like possums, so no complaints from me, unless he's got a bland personality... I get the impression that Br'er Coon is kinda boring.
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Post by psychoangel51402 on May 19, 2009 13:08:37 GMT -5
He DOES seem the "Oh, dear, I'd better just stay out of your way, sir" type, if'n ye catch me drift...
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jul 12, 2009 1:43:53 GMT -5
Alrighty- at long last, I have FINALLY gotten my hands on a Br'er Weasel comic that's on-model. This is the real deal- not just some randomly designed weasel. It's the design he was created with by Americans in the late 1940s, and embraced by the Netherlands since the late '70s. It's all thanks to this talented and thankfully generous artist, Henrieke: henrieke.deviantart.com/She promises more, but she's real busy now, so we must be patient. And of course, who could forget the comic itself?: smg.photobucket.com/albums/v428/tymime/Weasels/Footprints%20in%20the%20Forest/?action=view¤t=footprints1.pngI haven't got it translated, but you can get the gist of it. |
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Post by kishi on Jul 12, 2009 11:03:21 GMT -5
Ah, Henrieke.  I love her artwork so much.  It's so weird how the weasels almost always have no tail. o.O Glad to see him with one finally. It's funny how Brer Rabbit is seen as a good guy. I've read the original stories and there were times when I felt like siding with the fox and murdering that rabbit. (He's a real pain in the butt in many of them. Most of the time, no one is doing anything -to- him in particular. He just likes to cause trouble.) |
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jul 12, 2009 13:53:24 GMT -5
Folktales had a very different idea of how moral trickster heroes could be. Very often, they're dirty sneaking liars that don't deserve anything less than a prison sentence and get away with murder... but the point was that we admired their cleverness, back when using your brains for self-gain was the pipe dream of poor folk.
It seems to me that the American sense of justice changed all that in animation. Toons seem to live by "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth", so if the smaller, weaker toon is pushed around, the audience demands that the bully toon get his/her just desserts. Most often the punishment the bully gets far outweighs the injustice the trickster toon initially received, but I guess we're all sort of sadistic inside and want it done anyway.
I personally deeply object to any character tormenting somebody for no reason and getting away with it, just because we're supposed to perceive the one who is tormented as the villain. That's why I think Jerry of the Tom & Jerry cartoons is evil.
As for Br'er Weasel, it would seem that he just wandered right into the crossfire, didn't he?
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Post by kishi on Jul 12, 2009 14:02:12 GMT -5
I know. Poor weasel. He just walked right into that whole thing.
I feel the same way about Tweety Bird. I just...can not stand that bird. I root for Sylvester to eat him every time. (Same way with the Road Runner.)
I guess I look at it too modernly. XD
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What 'chu doin' takin' off yo' clothes, foo'?! 
I love her artwork so much. 