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Post by Greasy on Jul 21, 2009 5:16:40 GMT -5
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jul 21, 2009 17:46:44 GMT -5
Ah... Jessica is Roger's "best friend". How randomly introduced she is! I notice her bosom isn't nearly as large as it is in the movie...
Sooo... what then? Did they just leave the Toon Patrol to fend for themselves in the Acme warehouse? Itching powder in those days was fierce and ruthless- it was really, really itchy. And I'll betcha itching powder made by Acme for toons was even worse.
So they're just gonna leave them there, scratching and clawing their skin off or what? I find that very strange.
One problem here is that they don't say WHY Doom is chasing after Roger, because they completely skip Eddie's photos of Jessica and the murder of Marvin Acme. I notice they only mention Doom's desire to take over Toontown once, unless I'm missing something.
They do say that Roger is for God knows what reason the only toon that supposedly can him stop from doing that. That doesn't really make sense.
...I have mixed feelings about these books. On one hand, it's oddly satisfying in a feel-good sort of way, because we see Eddie's grouchiness (which is completely unmotivated in this case) much more easily cured, and the Toon Patrol is given a scrap of mercy.
I notice that Doom is still not given any mercy, though. No sympathy for the devil here, I guess.
On the other hand, the lack of any real conflict or motivation makes the payoff rather unsatisfying, because there's no drama to make the happy ending that much sweeter. In general, the dumbing down and removal of key details makes for a stilted, awkward, and rather dopey story.
What can I say? We all wish that the Toon Patrol fared better, and yet it's at the expense of any real depth here. I guess I can't expect a children's book to have any of the mastery of such a brilliant film...
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Post by Greasy on Jul 22, 2009 5:17:52 GMT -5
Wow, I see you have much to say about the books.
My opinion is similar to yours, but what I really don´t like is, how the weasels are drawn here. Roger and Jessica are copied very good.
Yeah, her breasts aren´t not so big like in the movie, but the rest, the outfit is copied exactly.
But how they draw the weasels .....hmmm, well I think Smart Guy was drawn best, then Psycho, then Stupid, then Wheezy (he has red eyes!?), and then Greasy. He doesn´t have ears!! His pants with stripes let him look fat, he has longer legs and his shoes are a little different.
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jul 22, 2009 14:51:20 GMT -5
I actually kinda like the way they drew Wheezy and Psycho, but you're right about the red eyes. They obviously weren't given the final designs, with Wheezy's blue eyes.
Actually, I think Greasy looks a little skinnier in this, and the long legs emphasize that. They're more like the others' legs. Pinstripe pants are authentic to his style and the period, but I imagine that it would've been too difficult to animate. That, and having his clothing mostly green is more visually striking. He's GREEN, if you know what I mean.
I can't understand why Disney didn't want to do any new stories with the Toon Patrol. It's not as if they couldn't write prequels... I guess that's one main disadvantage of killing off your characters.
...At the very least, I didn't have to figure out how Eddie could've met Roger before WFRR without somehow recognizing him in the movie. I may have been forced to make these non-canonical if that was the case.
Instead, we got yet another adaptation of the movie, which makes it easy to consider it an alternate universe of some kind.
Up next! The novelization... When I get my hands on a copy, I figured I could discuss its differences from the film. I imagine it'd be like reading a different draft of the script, but mostly I'm interested in how they handle the Toon Patrol in the narration.
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Post by Greasy on Jul 27, 2009 3:49:14 GMT -5
Yeah, i would like to see it definetely, if they would one or more stories about the toon patrol.
That would be cool.
Toon Patrol -the origin-
Or something like that.
Only on this board are enough ideas for the Disney Company, they only have to take a look on it.
What we need is some advertising.
A short movie on youtube.
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jul 27, 2009 4:24:59 GMT -5
One of my goals is to spread the word about the Toon Patrol and Disney's weasels not only by sharing scans and things, but by drawing fanart of them, writing fanfics, and someday animating them.
You see, I've been wanting to learn how to animate. I want to buy Richard William's book and DVD series on learning how to animate, and hopefully my brother and I will get good enough to animate the Toon Patrol someday...
So if things go well, the weasels will become more popular and Disney will take notice. That's the ideal, anyway.
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Post by Greasy on Jul 27, 2009 4:41:27 GMT -5
That would be cool. and one of my dreams, too.
Well, if you animate them, how want you get the copyrights of the weasels?
Wouldn´t that be expensive and complicated?
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jul 27, 2009 5:04:37 GMT -5
Well, I wouldn't have people pay money to see the animation, you see. I've seen plenty of amateur and non-professional animators animate copyrighted characters- but the key here is that it's unofficial and non-profitable.
I'm pretty sure you can get away with that... I mean, it'd be like drawing fanart, except it moves, right?
Also, I live in LA County, which means Hollywood, Burbank, and Anaheim are nearby. My uncle is also an Imagineer, so I have my options...
It's one of our dreams, my brother and I, to work for Disney. If we can get into the comic books department...
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Post by Fisi on Jul 27, 2009 9:13:21 GMT -5
What is Smart@$$ grabbing from his suit a gun or something cause I am really curious.
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jul 27, 2009 14:01:54 GMT -5
I think he's just fingering the lapel of his jacket.
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Post by kishi on Jul 27, 2009 19:20:35 GMT -5
Don't depend on the 'no monetary gain' to hold you up, Fatal. I recently met up with a guy who wanted to make a live-action version of a cartoon show and the studio heard and stopped him cold. He wasn't making money, but they still stopped him because in the end, it's -their- characters names/personalities being used or abused. With Disney, they rather turn a blind eye to it so long as you aren't making them look bad. Mainly because -they- don't want to look bad by telling some fifteen year old kid that his/her silly animation of Mickey Mouse must be taken down or they'll bury them in paperwork. But you can never count 100% on them reacting like that. o.O Which is rather un-nerving, actually. You never quite know when they're going to be watching.  |
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jul 27, 2009 21:15:49 GMT -5
Oh, well, I intend to respect the integrity of their work completely. No Mickey Mouse mooning the audience from me. Also, I don't really want to have a whole lot of publicity, 'cause I'm only going to put these things on dA, YouTube, and Newgrounds, so I'm going to be relying entirely on word of mouth.
And in case anything rubs someone in charge the wrong way, I'm going to put "SATIRICAL INTENT" in big red letters at the beginning whenever the animation has satirical humor. I have the ability to do that, right?
Getting in trouble for that sort of thing when the copyright holders aren't losing any money or getting a bad image is ridiculous, anyway.
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Post by Greasy on Jul 28, 2009 5:40:12 GMT -5
Hope that the plans you have can get real for you, and for all who love the toon patrol.
It would be bad when anyone would try to stop you, but it seems that you have enough cleverness to make this right.
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jul 28, 2009 13:37:04 GMT -5
Cleverness? Heh... well, I certainly try. Thanks.
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Post by theamericanmarten on Oct 14, 2010 20:23:35 GMT -5
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