consequences

[Eternity]

If the weasels didn't die of laughter and Doom's plan was foiled anyway, I think the other Toons would have thrown them in the dip. I highly doubt the other Toons would ever forgive the weasels for what they almost did. It's like asking the Jews to forgive Hitler for what he did to them in the Holocaust.

[Fatal hilarity]

I think only some toons would wish that fate on any toon at all- somebody just as hardened and bitter as the Toon Patrol. Toons, I think, by their very nature have a bit of good in their hearts with very, very few exceptions (such as Doom)- simply because we as an audience tend to see the good in them. Their purpose and desire is to entertain us, so they all must have some good in them, otherwise they wouldn't want to bring people joy.
Somebody like Mickey wouldn't want the Toon Patrol to be executed. In one of the comics I have, he has a chance to shoot down Pete from the skies in a plane, and even though Pete was a traitor to the entire USA for assisting the Nazis for money, Mickey couldn't bring himself to do it. That ounce of mercy springing from his conscience told him that he'd hate himself in the morning. (Although he crudely said that he worried he'd turn into a Japanese...)

So I think that they'd be thrown in jail for a long time, and perhaps be given the chance to realize the vast consequences their actions would've caused.
After all, we see that plenty of other weasels, particularly Slithy, Doofus, and Al, weren't hunted down like witches- at least not successfully. Like I've said, my theory is that Walt spotted this large group of weasels with no jobs, and signed them up for a lifetime contract, which gave Disney the rights to creating weasels similar to them.

[Eternity]

Still, assisting in attempted genocide is a crime that is incredibley difficult (if not impossible) to forgive.

Another thing that bugs me is that Doom didn't seem to worry about being caught by a lynch mob, had his plan succeeded. I'm sure there would be a large degree of public outrage that he murdered beloved Toons.

[Fatal hilarity]

It's my impression that toons find it easier to forgive, though...

I think Doom thought that the convenience of the freeway would make people forget about the toons. Isn't that what he said? "Who would have time to think about a bunch of talking mice"? Something like that...
You have to admit, there are things that have been destroyed throughout history that should've caused an outrage, but didn't. Maybe Doom had a very negative view of humanity.
It's just as well, since he clearly had a disdain for the zaniness and nuttiness of toons.

[kishi]

"Who has time to wonder what happened to a bunch of ridiculous talking mice when you're speeding by at 70 miles an hour?"

Doom was a nutcase. XD He was a toon, that seems almost to hate -being- a toon. Hating what you are will drive you over the edge. I mean, he pretended to be a human through the whole thing and none of the others knew. (The weasel's might have, but somehow I kinda get the feeling they didn't know 100%. Maybe suspected.)

I do think that toons are remarkably forgiving. In one of the scenes that was cut, a kid asks Eddie if he can whack him in the head and the kid seems shocked when Eddie tells him off. If toons weren't very forgiving, I don't think they'd go around letting little kids whack them just to see if birds flew around their heads.

They might have punished the weasels, but I don't think they would have done anything to truly hurt them. Like...maybe they'd lock them up until they finally figured out that what they'd been doing was horrible, however long that would have taken. But I don't see all of those toons turning into a lynch mob and dipping the weasels.

Just for the simple fact that toons seem to have a genuine and deep dislike of the stuff.

Have you ever heard the phrase "I wouldn't do that to my worst enemy."? It's kind of along the lines of that.

[Fatal hilarity]

Yeah, I agree that toons wouldn't wish Dip on anyone. It'd be such a profoundly disturbing thing to a toon, legitimately dying... when you're practically immortal, the thought of dying must be terrifying.
(...And yet I've come to wonder what a toon does with themselves when they realize the extent of their eternal youth- to go on and on and on through the decades, perhaps even centuries...)

It's my theory that Doom considered himself to be dignified and graceful compared to other toons. In Resurrection of Doom, you can tell that he poses himself like a legitimate classic villain, what with his dashing black outfit and tall stature. I think he was created evil, bent on destroying and taking over pretty much everyone and everything- the accident he had with the grenade during the filming of Mother Goose Step is what sent him over the edge, I think.
It's my personal theory that he was born murderous, but then there was a time when either Maroon Cartoons or some other company tried to get him under control through heavy rehabilitation, and that the grenade accident brought back those evil tendencies.

I imagine it would be very awkward for a toon to be asked to let somebody whop them on the head, because, you know, it'd be painful. The kid who asked Eddie seemed to be more intent on committing acts of violence and getting away with it- sadistic, in other words- than innocently asking a toon to perform a gag.
To me, it was like: "Do a trick, dancing monkey!" If the child simply wanted to laugh, then I think the toon would hit themselves on the head gladly, just to brighten the kid's day.

The weasels would most certainly try to escape jail, if the jail scene in Mr. Toad's Wild Ride is any indication.

[kishi]

True, but kids do a lot of things without fully realizing the consequences.

I never understood why he'd want to whack someone, personally. But then, I really like toons a lot, so I wouldn't want to hit them.

I suppose it would hurt. Roger complained about Eddie yanking his ears ("You hate me!"..."You do! Otherwise you wouldn't have yanked my ears all those times!") and when Greasy hit him with the bricks he was actually knocked loopy. He forgot where he was..."Look stars! Ready when you are Raoul!"

You have an interesting theory on Doom. He creeps the heck out of me.

[Fatal hilarity]

See, because Roger goes "Yeeeeoooowww!!" when his ears are yanked, but then acts like nothing happened, I think toons do feel pain (unlike what some people say), but they recover almost immediately.

Anyway... so yeah, Doom deserves no mercy because he has none. Nobody here, I don't think, wishes that Doom wasn't Dipped, right? To me, he was encouraging the Toon Patrol's hatred for other toons, serving as a source of temptation.
In my fanfiction, he represents the Devil.

And yet somehow or another there was still something left of him in the world, and that was the old model sheet. Seems to me that a toon's essence is in the toon's drawing.
RoD also mentions that all that's left of him is a jar of Dip. Does that mean there are still traces of paint in there? I guess that would be like when you're painting in oil, and cleaning your brushes in solvent- there's still paint in there.
That makes me wonder about his death in RoD, when he oozes into the sewer. Are there traces of the paint that made up Doom, Slithy, Doofus, and Al floating in the sewers of LA?
See, all this makes me think of the Frankenstein connection the comic makes, and how the Frankenstein monster keeps coming back in Universal's movies.

Perhaps the greatest mistake was creating Baron von Rotten in the first place- because even in death, he left a grim legacy behind.

[theamericanmarten]

Jun 15, 2009 22:56:35 GMT -5 Eternity said:

I wonder if the weasels ever realized just how serious the consequences of their actions would have been. They would have not only wiped out Toontown and all its inhabitants, they would have put hundreds of men and women with jobs in animation out of work. No jobs means no money, which means their families would have suffered.

Aye.