Who P-P-P-Plugged Roger Rabbit?

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He wouldn't be a very good father, would he? Since Disney wouldn't want to pay up to have him appear very often in Roger Rabbit media, Bugs would hardly show up at all! And then Bugs would probably be too busy being famous in the WFRR world...
Of course, Roger's fame has faded quite a bit since the early '90s. It's a real crying shame, 'cause he deserves to be equal with Mickey and the others, I think...

Anyway... is there anything else we want to discuss concerning this book?

[psychoangel51402]

Well, there were a couple of cartoons where he had to babysit for some reason or another. He was pretty good with the kids, if not a little impatient.

Um...Joellyn. I liked her. She had spunk. And great taste in fashion.

I'm glad Wolf changed Jessica's personality so that she loved Roger like in the movie. The ending would've been terrible otherwise.

What's your position on Dip-tipped weapons? And the Crypt of the Slipped? They do suggest new ways to kill Toons, but the whole Dip-tipped thing sounds screwy to me. How would that work exactly? Wouldn't it have to be dry to stay on the weapon? But wouldn't it not work if it was dry?

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I can't really remember what the Crypt of the Slipped was... geez, this book isn't very memorable, is it? I mean, I do remember the graveyard scene, but I don't remember anything particularly special about it.

As for Dip-tipped bullets, now that I think about it, the science isn't very sound, is it? I mean, sure, you can stick a bullet in some Dip and load it in a gun, but when it fires, wouldn't the heat burn it away? Unless there's something I don't know about turpentine, acetone, and benzene... I asked my dad, and he said the stuff would most likely evaporate. If it were dry, it wouldn't be there anymore.
Shoot... this really goofs up an idea I had for the fanfiction I'm working on.
But you know, it'd make TONS more sense if someone were to fire darts with Dip on it, like poison darts. Frozen Dip wouldn't work on a bullet, either. So I guess I can change it to darts in my scene.
Hmm... that gives the image of some green, deadly freezer that a toon would be thrown in to be executed. But what are the freezing temperatures of the ingredients?

I'm not convinced that small, Dip-tipped objects penetrating the flesh of a toon would kill them. Burn nasty, painful holes, yes, but not necessarily melt them away. I've imagined that a toon could be partially melted by Dip or any of its three ingredients for a while now, because it seems to me that you have to be completely covered in the stuff in order to be completely melted. Otherwise, I think they'd only lose something like an arm or something.
Although perhaps melting away the heart or the brain would kill them...

[kishi]

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Uck. Grisly crime scene photo time.

I just imagined what the Toontown cops would have to take photos of.

Maybe it would dry, but wouldn't toons be filled with liquid ink? Liquid can re-hydrate dried poisons. So maybe that's what they're thinking of, but I should think that the heat from being shot from a gun would indeed either burn most of it off.

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Well, it would seem that it would evaporate, so... I don't think Wolf was really thinking.
I suppose some extra ingredient could conceivably make Dip cake like dried blood, but I don't know what could do that...

I've been thinking about what the Toon Patrol's corpses would look like.

[kishi]

It does evaporate quickly. Which begs the question of if they mixed anything else into the dip besides the main three ingredients. Those could just be 'active ingredients' and something else was added to extend the life of the chemicals. (If I understand correctly, and I may not as it's 5AM and I just woke up, it's only the pure forms of those chemicals that evaporate quickly. And depending on if the object saturated with it is porous or not, I think the time extends a bit. (Saw an article about someone trying to get turpentine out of cork. Not a good combo. It was days later and they could still smell it.)

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I've often wondered if there was more than those three ingredients too. I've been wanting to experiment by finding out what brands of turpentine, acetone, and benzene would've been easily available in LA in 1947, and mixing them together to see what it looks like. I have a very strong suspicion that it won't be green.
One other interesting thing is that the concoction is steamy whenever we see it, and Greasy mentions how the Dip "should be nice and hot by now" in Car Toon Spin. What would be the limit of temperature it could reach? Would added ingredients be the only way?

Surely science is the same in the WFRR world... it may not have much bearing on toons, but for anything non-toon, I seriously doubt it'd be different than ours.

[kishi]

I don't think science would bend for anyone but toons either.

A quick search turned up that Turpentine boils at 150 to 180 degrees C. That's a really high heat...it's also horribly flammable and explosive. XD

www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/turpentine/recognition.html

I think OSHA is quite reliable about it, too. It will flashpoint in a closed container at 95 degrees F.

So in all honestly, during the end of the film when Wheezy is handling the barrels (I think he was smoking, not sure.) But if he -was- smoking...the whole thing should have gone up like a Roman Candle.

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Is he ever NOT smoking? Since he almost undoubtedly is (I'd have to check), I suppose toon sparks wouldn't necessarily set something off like that.
Would it be have to be to the boiling point to be hot enough to steam, I wonder? I kind of doubt it.

How much damage do you suppose the individual ingredients would inflict on a toon? It would seem that you can melt them well enough with turpentine alone, as we see in the Pig-Head scene. It looks like it was a lot messier, though, since the poor semi-sentient pig head came off in globs of... toon flesh, it would seem.
Wikipedia's "List of Who Framed Roger Rabbit characters" article uses the words "film dissolver" in reference to its ingredients. So far I haven't found out what that means- I was assuming that it meant "film" as in "reels of film" for movies, but perhaps they just mean "film" as in a particular form of dirtiness.
So I figure that the individual ingredients would melt a toon just as well, but not as quickly or cleanly.

I also wonder just how well they would mix in real life... would those three combined really dissolve paint so well or would they not work well together? I'm just wondering what the chemical reaction would be, and if it's anything like oil and water.

[kishi]

Much of the time, turpentine gets the job done easily.

My concern is, would the ingredients remain stable when they're combined. Sometimes they become completely unstable.

Acetone is used to melt plastics. We had a bottle of it when I worked at the theater. We used it to repair the marquee letters if they broke. When you put it on and pressed the plastic together, it melted it together just like heat would.

Either way, the fumes on that stuff are wicked.

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Hmm... I guess I ought to mix them together in a place that wouldn't suffer too much harm if it exploded or something, huh? I hope it doesn't do that... guess I'll wear goggles.

Okay, I asked my dad- he's a science geek- and he says that it'd still act like a paint thinner, that it wouldn't be green, and that it'd be more effective when it was hot.
So... that would mean Doom added something to it to make it green colored. That may explain the radio news reporter in Car Toon Spin describing it as "green Dip"...
A splash of green paint would probably do it, and would be appropriately morbid. I've used solvents to clean paint brushes before, and it changes into the color of the paint you're using the most. Or would green dye or food coloring be enough? I also notice that there layers of yellow here and there in the movie, although I suspect it's from previous victims.
Heh... who knew Doom could be creative?

I wonder what sort of container I'd have to put it in to heat it up... I suppose the stove would do it well, but that might be dangerous... I certainly wouldn't want to heat it up regularly.

[kishi]

I wouldn't use open flames. Which goes without saying, really.

The best way to do something like that, would be in a strictly controlled setting.

The green color could very well be from previous victims as well. o.O

However after a while, if it were caused by that, it should just turn a muddy brownish color. Paint colors all mixed together = really ugly nasty color of brown

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It's consistently green, though, and in Car Toon Spin we see that it's prepared that way, so it's gotta be deliberate.
Would covering the container and putting it in the microwave work? I oughta ask my dad again...

I wonder... how often would Doom make a fresh batch? Every time it got muddy? What would he do with it afterwards? Dump it in the sewer with no regard to pollution?
Hmm... sounds like yet another way Dip could do horrid things...

[psychoangel51402]

About the bodies: Well, we know what Stupid's body looked like:

But then the floor was covered with Dip, so the bodies were destroyed. There's another ludicrous Wolf theory: according to him, Toons' bodies disintegrate a few minutes after death.

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So do you suppose that having Dip underneath them, but not necessarily on top of them would be enough to completely melt them? Because the (partial) survival of their bodies is key to my fanfiction and such.
Well, at the very least those dead toons were killed by Dip-tipped bullets... right? Or have I forgotten something?
And what was the Crypt of the Slipped again?