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Post by Greasy on May 28, 2008 4:22:36 GMT -5
Anytime I asked me why the character animators
have desided that the toon patrol are five, or more
7 weasels, you know, Flasher and Slimy.
They had taken foxes or wolves, or other, but they desided to take weasels.
I don´t want to say that weasels aren´t good for that thing,
I´m happy that they have chosen them.
In movies you can´t see often weasels, and this movie made
me love weasels.
It´s just a question.
What do you think about it?
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Post by Blooper on May 28, 2008 10:03:08 GMT -5
Weasels have much worse reputations than foxes or bats or wolves. And even though foxes are said to be sneaky, none of the other animals are known so well for being greedy. The animators needed to create a group of animals that have have such bad ego, the audience would know right away that they're the bad guys. At least, that's what I think. (You must enjoy this rare moment of pure seriousness; I haven't had my coffee yet  ) |
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Post by Fatal hilarity on May 28, 2008 13:15:07 GMT -5
Oh yeah? What about snakes? Those demons made Adam and Eve eat the Forbidden Fruit! Kill 'em all! ...Yeah, there's something weird about the black and white nature of animal depictions in animation. But as long as they're not completely demonized, I'm okay with it. If you have the cat chasing mice, and suddenly the mice bombard it with bullets and whip out their bazookas, I'm not okay with it. The Toon Patrol being weasels I think is an example of a milder form of stereotyping. We all know that their "law enforcement" is a front for bumping off Judge Doom's enemies, but you'll notice that it isn't them who invented Dip. They're enemies with the world of toons for unexplained reasons, but I think it's because the world of toons gave them no other choice. It's sort of like telling a big muscular guy that he can only play sports and nothing else- if he dares try to take up knitting, everyone will get confused. |
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Post by Greasy on May 29, 2008 3:25:27 GMT -5
I understand, what you mean, but I can´t understand, why people make cartoons,
in which is shoing how the cat never wins against the mouse!
Eventhough with the weasels.
Sure it´s funny to see them loose, but I don´t find that good that they must die!
They aren´t that bad, that they have to.
I never saw the weasels as bad as Doom!
What´s with you?
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Post by Fatal hilarity on May 29, 2008 14:56:04 GMT -5
I think the fact that it was Doom that invented Dip, but not the weasels, is a pretty clear indication that the weasels are in no way nearly as bad as him.
I've always preferred the carnivore or predator, over the herbivore or prey. It always seems as though the predator is loads smarter. But in older cartoons, they make the mouse far more cruel than the cat! I don't get it.
Well, I suppose the reason the WFRR team chose weasels over anything else is that weasels have long been seen as some sort of moral opposite to the protaganist, or hero. Disney has used weasels as some sort of generic bad guy ever since The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad.
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Post by Greasy on May 30, 2008 3:11:59 GMT -5
Yes, I know the movie! I have it at home, but isn´t it an English story , not an American one?
Do the Americans have the same opinions about weasels like the British ones?
For example in Germany weasels have only the image to be fast and elegant, not more.
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Post by Fatal hilarity on May 30, 2008 11:55:44 GMT -5
Oh yes, the original The Wind in the Willows novel the movie is based on (which I have read) is definitely English, and rather bluntly and unashamedly so.
I'm not sure if it's regional or anything, but Disney seemed to like them quite a bit for a while there. There's a weasel in the Goofy short How To Be A Detective, and of course there are some in both versions of Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. The Disney World version had more, but it isn't there anymore, sadly.
I don't really know if weasels are any more stereotyped here in America than they are in Europe, although it's my impression that weasels, bad guys or not, are more popular as characters in general in England than here.
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Post by Greasy on Jun 4, 2008 3:29:22 GMT -5
I know the cartoon with Goofy.
It was my favorite, but because of the weasel.
At first it looks like the weasel as the bad guy, but at the end
we can see thet he isn´t!
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jun 4, 2008 13:23:53 GMT -5
He's a man of the cloth! Although he can't be a very good one, considering he robs somebody and drugs Goofy's drink.
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Post by Greasy on Jun 5, 2008 3:18:28 GMT -5
Really, I can´t remember, but the last time I´ve seen this cartoon, I was 12 years old.
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jun 5, 2008 11:24:24 GMT -5
Hmm... I found it on the internet just a couple weeks ago. I was looking for more Disney weasels at the time.
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Post by Greasy on Jun 6, 2008 3:26:04 GMT -5
Really? I have to search now!
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Post by Fatal hilarity on Jun 6, 2008 13:46:42 GMT -5
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Post by theamericanmarten on Oct 4, 2010 21:32:53 GMT -5
I think they would've been better as 6 wolves (they're the Wolf Pack located in the fanart section that I made up), but I like the weasels just the way they are.
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Post by theamericanmarten on Oct 4, 2010 21:34:21 GMT -5
Oh yes, the original The Wind in the Willows novel the movie is based on (which I have read) is definitely English, and rather bluntly and unashamedly so. I'm not sure if it's regional or anything, but Disney seemed to like them quite a bit for a while there. There's a weasel in the Goofy short How To Be A Detective, and of course there are some in both versions of Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. The Disney World version had more, but it isn't there anymore, sadly. I don't really know if weasels are any more stereotyped here in America than they are in Europe, although it's my impression that weasels, bad guys or not, are more popular as characters in general in England than here. I'm watching it right now! |
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