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Post by The Forgoten One on Jan 31, 2011 23:57:12 GMT -5
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Post by theamericanmarten on Feb 1, 2011 0:15:38 GMT -5
Nice, girl!! Btw, the Toon Patrol and the other weasels really made the video.  |
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Post by The Forgoten One on Feb 1, 2011 15:55:23 GMT -5
they do
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Post by The Unknown on Feb 28, 2011 3:43:56 GMT -5
Stromboli is the best villain ever, but why is the Cheshire Cat bad? I don't recall him doing anything that would define him as a villain.
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Post by theamericanmarten on Feb 28, 2011 18:27:17 GMT -5
Well, he gets Alice in trouble with the Queen of Hearts.
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Post by The Unknown on Feb 28, 2011 21:30:43 GMT -5
But that doesn't classify him as a villain. He's just a mischief maker. When you really think about it there really aren't any villains in Alice in Wonderland, unless you view the Queen of Hearts as one.
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Post by The Forgoten One on Feb 28, 2011 21:33:49 GMT -5
true my cousin told me he was evil and i should put him in my video they classified him as a villain but i'm not really sure
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Post by The Unknown on Feb 28, 2011 21:40:36 GMT -5
I just...wait...what?
Disney dun goofed!
He's more like...a Captain Jack Sparrow-like character when it comes to the role they play. They help and hinder the other characters in certain situations. If Disney classifies the Cheshire Cat as a villain for those reasons then they might as well classify CJS as a villain too.
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Post by theamericanmarten on Feb 28, 2011 21:40:55 GMT -5
Kk
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Post by The Forgoten One on Feb 28, 2011 21:48:31 GMT -5
good point on there Unknown
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Post by The Unknown on Feb 28, 2011 22:09:59 GMT -5
(SPOILER ALERT)
A villain cause harm (physically or not) towards the cast on purpose for whatever intentions they have. Use voodoo magic to turn a Prince into a frog and transform his servant into the Prince in order to marry a wealthy young woman? Kill off your brother and nephew to gain control of the pride and land? Trick a young mermaid to trade her voice for legs in order to be with the man she loves, then turn the tables around by using her voice to lure the Prince away and force a deal onto the mermaid's father to gain a powerful weapon to control the seas?
Anything along those lines can classify a character as a villain. Our loveable Weasels are considered villains because
1.) They're a corrupt law enforcement using whatever authority they have to help their boss succeed in his plans
2.) We see no signs of remorse nor a guilty conscience when it comes to their actions. This can be seen as them being cold, cruel and sadistic. They are willing to harm others - even SHOOT or STAB them - to silence "goodie two shoes."
3.) They are willing to destroy their own kind for whatever reason they have for it without any second thoughts
Judge Doom is a bit obvious to go over, but these are clear classifications of a villain. The Cheshire Cat had done NOTHING to be classified as so. He is neither bad nor good. He does what he pleases, but he clearly has no evil intentions besides it all being a fun little game. Also don't forget that him and the others are "insane."
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Post by The Forgoten One on Feb 28, 2011 22:12:17 GMT -5
wow i see thanks for the info so i guess i'll remake the video then
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Post by The Unknown on Feb 28, 2011 22:15:54 GMT -5
I wasn't really making criticism towards your video, but at the fact the Cheshire Cat was on there. You have no need to change it. I just wanted to make the statement clear since Disney doesn't seem to know how to classify characters nowadays except for the sake of merchandising. :-)
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Post by The Forgoten One on Feb 28, 2011 22:19:06 GMT -5
thanks Unknown sorry for this
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Post by The Unknown on Feb 28, 2011 22:21:46 GMT -5
No need to apologize! It's ok!
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